These researchers many of whom are of a Christian mindset, but there are also the New Agers who tend to interpret nature, like the Christians, in paranoid ways. The paranoid idea of course, of nature being a seductive trap, originates from Asia where it was believed, in Hinduism, for example, that reality, and sensuality, was 'Maya'/'illusion' popularly likened to a feminine seduction threatening the male 'heroic' quest for immortality and escape from the 'trap' of birth, and death, and the further 'suffering' of cycles of this dynamic happening we find ourselves participating in.
I feel I'm carrying on the work of Monica Sjoo who greatly set the groundwork for this post 9/11 study of an occult power structure, and who differentiated between a phony pretense of love for nature, and Goddess, and community, posed by some of the New Age groups, and the patriarchy in general, and a far more ancient authentic source of a Goddess religion and mythology which the patriarchies tried to suppress, co-opt, and expropriate over very many centuries.
I recently watched a video at YouTube done by a guy who is a fairly well-known so-called 'Truther' exposing the evils of what is going on in the world, and the last video I saw of his, he was condemning the Superbowl Madonna extravaganza where she and other famous female performers are doing, he claims, Illuminati rituals.
As he talks you see he is full of righteous indignation. He claims another black female performer in this show , chooses her name to mean she likes to have sex with two guys at the same time, and he calls her a "skank slut", and we see a clip of famous a comedian, and lesbian, who had this performer on her show who he also calls a skank slut, but then he has text appear saying he is sorry he called her a slut...lol!
But as I continued to watch this guy rant on, I saw very clearly his righteous indignation, and the potential for evil in his attitude. For this very attitude of hating 'evil' can become extremely evil itself given the power to express these emotions.
Isn't this what happened in the Inquisition where people, supposedly believing in a 'God of Love and forgiveness', Jesus Christ, and believing him, and themselves, to be 'pure and good and light and saved' would persecute 'heretics', and 'witches', who were mainly poor old women who they believed were full damned and possessed by evil demons.
In the extremely graphic and upsetting video below we clearly see this dynamic express itself in full with horrific consequences for its victims.
Any investigation into a possible occultist 'hidden hand' behind such events as 9/11, we have to be aware what other belief systems are investigating that one otherwise we can fall out of the frying pan in the fire. Another example would be listening to scientologists expose the mental illness myth, a myth which very much deserves exposing, but doing so not being aware of that cult's own danger, and becoming part of it!
2012We have arrived into the much hyped year of 2012. There have been numerous myths in the preceding years of this date about what is supposed to happen this year , predictions of an 'end of history', end of the world, to the landing of the 'Galactic Federation', to the sudden ascension of planet earth and consciousness, etc., but from my perspective, regardless of whether any of these myths are true or not, what we can really do which is fruitful is to see this date as an inspiration to boldly explore and uncover whatever myths are getting in the way between us and seeing a deeper living story that has been withheld from us for many generations and therefore cuts us off from nature, and our selves. The term Apocalypse defines this intent:
apocalypse Look up apocalypse at Dictionary.com
late 14c., "revelation, disclosure," from Church L. apocalypsis "revelation," from Gk. apokalyptein "uncover, disclose, reveal," from apo- "from" (see apo-) + kalyptein "to cover, conceal" (see Calypso). The Christian end-of-the-world story is part of the revelation in John of Patmos' book "Apokalypsis" (a title rendered into English as "Apocalypse" c.1230 and "Revelations" by Wyclif c.1380). Its general sense in M.E. was "insight, vision; hallucination;" meaning "a cataclysmic event" is modern. As agent nouns, apocalypst (1829), apocalypt (1834), and apocalyptist (1835) have been tried. [emphasis mine]
I have emphasized the definition I prefer--the original Greek to 'uncover, disclose, reveal'. That is what I think is very important to do, because the power structures who control this planet and many of us, our bodies and consciousnesses, or think they do, use various techniques for the very reason to hide and cover-up.
Many people already know about how they will use propaganda as a means to manipulate bodies and consciousness, but not so much about their use of occultism. For propaganda to be successful they depend on the victims of it not to be aware what they're doing, and the same goes for occult. The very term, occult means 'hidden':
- occult (adj.)
- 1530s, "secret, not divulged," from L. occultus "hidden, concealed, secret," pp. of occulere "cover over, conceal," from ob "over" + a verb related to celare "to hide," from PIE root *kel- (see cell). Meaning "not apprehended by the mind, beyond the range of understanding" is from 1540s. The association with the supernatural sciences (magic, alchemy, astrology, etc.) dates from 1630s.
- There is very long-standing and intimate connection between the elite, their Intelligence operatives, and the occult, and this article also underlines this connection:
- The British Occult Secret ServiceIt is not really surprising that historically occultism and espionage have often been strange bedfellows. The black art of espionage is about obtaining secret information and witches, psychics and astrologers have always claimed to be able to predict the future and know about things hidden from ordinary people.
Gathering intelligence is carried out under a cloak of secrecy and occultists are adept at keeping their activities concealed from sight. Like secret agents they also use codes, symbols and cryptograms to hide information from outsiders. Occultists and intelligence officers are similar in many ways, as both inhabit a shadowy underworld of secrets, deception and disinformation. It is therefore not unusual that often these two professions have shared the same members.
So to 'uncover' this link, between the elite, their intelligence operatives, the occult, and possible codes, symbolism, and actions, it necessitates we LOOK and learn, investigate, so that in doing so we are revealing, and becoming aware, and this will mean they cannot continue to create the illusions they do and thus manipulate our bodies and minds, as they can do with war propaganda.
They seduce the youth, with guilt, and promise of money and adventure, and a rite of passage into manhood, employing all forms of images, text, and video games, and then once the youth is signing their contract they often will soon wake up to the horror of the situation they find themselves in which will consist of dehumanization, having to take a cocktails of toxic drugs, being lied to, and no protection against contamination from weapons, and abuse and murder of innocent civilians that will, for many, haunt them, causing psychological trauma,disability, and then when eventually out, if they aren't killed, no help coming their way, or their families, from the military.
So is it not very important that parents and their children become deeply aware of such propaganda, because these 'wars' are really to make the elite profits, and are also occult sacrifices, the young naive conscripts being their sacrificial money-making meat-puppets.
All of that war propaganda is utterly connected with their false flag Intelligence Operations their aim which is to trigger powerful trauma, emotion, and hatred against the proposed 'enemy' so that you will agree with their war industry going to peoples countries and dropping bombs on innocent civilians, including children, babies, and contaminating the whole region with toxic pollution that will continue wreaking devastation and making the land uninhabitable.
It is far wiser to become aware of what they are up to, and how to know who is doing what.
I encourage a way to see through confusing belief systems which themselves claim to help us see though a central conspiracy, and/or occult matrix, is to be very aware which of these belief systems looking at these subjects really cares for Earth.
Monica Sjoo shows how when closely looked at, many of the leaders of the New Age movement actually welcome a nuclear Armageddon, because they are obsessed by solar mythology and thus the whole nuclear technology is to them' mankind' being given the power of the sun via solar gods, and channeled entities, for the purpose of evolving nature, and thus any present and future nuclear catastrophe can only be a good thing in their paranoid worldview.
When we survey the accepted belief systems they all have this same root of discontent for Earth, nature, the physical body and sensuality, and seek getting away from all the 'mess'. So let us look at a brief survey of these popular belief systems:
All the words in the Holy Bible are literally true and "historical" ~~ A real Only Son of God who was a man born of a Virgin, and, when 33, was Crucified, and 3 days later was Physically Resurrected, and returns to the Father in heaven; then as the Christ will return in the Final Days. . If you believe unquestioningly in this story which is the very "Word of God" you will be rewarded with eternal life in heaven, but if you don't, and question, doubt, and choose other stories, you will be consigned to everlasting hell.
This is secret and only for initiates. Christianity is a sacred phallic-god mushroom cult influenced by the Orphic Mysteries, and the Essenes, and emphasizes purification, and return to a spiritual home of the spirit.
The male phallic God's spirit semen is the power of the holy mushroom which saves, and helps the eventual escape from nature, and return to the 'father god' in a purified physical form.
Nature, the body and senses are Maya, which means 'illusion', and are therefore a seductive trap, and so one must achieve 'Oneness' and return to a non-dualistic bliss, and thus escape nature, birth to the mother, and Her cycles of birth and death and regeneration.
Reaction to Christianity. The latter 'says' "turn the other cheek" to one's enemies; the former says "crush those who get in your way". They interpret nature in a social Darwinist way such as 'only the fittest will survive', and therefore the 'weak' deserve to be trodden on and die off because they are weak, and hold back evolution.
New Age/ Theosophy/Occult
'Channeling' 'ascended masters', entities, and writing books claimed to be the knowledge channeled--the content of which is mostly reactionary, warmongering, elitist, racist, misogynist, violent, matricidal, and ecocidal.
There is only 'matter', and 'spirit' does not exist. Only science via its method, and measure, can know what is real. Meaningless nature, where only the fittest will survive, and consumerism & productivity is reality - the 'real world'.
The worldviews above which share the same patriarchal rootstock and the fear of nature, and seeking to escape and/or 'put it right' differ dramatically from Goddess religion which understands Earth as the Mother, and sacred, as is the cyclic nature of reality, and the psychedelic fruits of Mother Earth inspire enlightenment into this living Mystery, the eternal nature of nature. There is insight into the complimentary polarity of the dynamic changing becomingness of nature and reality.
Lover of the Earth
There's a guy calling himself Chriswhite (also known as Knowwheretorun1984) who makes videos exposing some of the major voices in the 'truth movement' like Michael Tsarion, David Icke, AlanWatt, Jordan Maxwell, etc., and he very much reveals that these people adhere to a New Age belief system, and chooses to expose this which I agree with. Thing is though that he himself is a Christian literalist and therefore fundamentalist, and will not apply the same critical thinking and insight to his own beliefs. He blocked me because I think I freaked him out too much because I agreed with him about the fruitful enterprise of exposing the New Agers and their support for the very conspiracy they supposedly rant against. I very much agreed with his exposure of the New Age infiltration of the truth movement, but he would argue till the cows come home that there really was an historical Jesus Christ of Nazareth who really was/is the Son of God, and who was Resurrected, and returned to his Father.
This scenario is to me like a surreal comedy of errors, a 'Game', and the very matrix. It is Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee 'agreeing' to have a battle. One worldview implies the other because they are both at root the same. BOTH the pretended 'different' worldviews welcome Armageddon--the Christian wants the 'fallen' world of 'decay and death' destroyed, and the 'new glorified one' brought by Christ's Second Coming, whilst their 'antagonists' who the Christians will call 'Satanists/Luciferians/the Illuminati', want ORDO AB CHAO, Latin, meaning ' order out of chaos'---as they so choose to plan and make it--- which includes false flags, invasions, war, massive radiation contamination, and all forms of abuse and exploitation, genocide, and ecocide for means of manipulation of the 'masses'. This state of affairs really is hardly a 'game' obviously, and is extremely dangerous indeed, and this is actually being seen in what is happening to planet Earth, and other species, and humans, many of whom are starving in this world and having to live in places which are literally and real hells--stinking toxic sewer pits where the water is undrinkable, even the air is not fit to breathe!! Where a military industrial complex, the biggest polluter on earth wages invasions, and uses weaponry which uses depleted uranium that contaminates the earth for millions of years, and causes hybrid cancers and horrific damage to DNA.
A great CLUE to connect these worldviews is their disdain for planet Earth, for as explained, the Christian mindset believes Earth is a 'fallen' and corrupted place, and until 'evil' is defeated' by their 'good god' will remain so, and the occult elite want to believe they are gods who have the right to OWN planet earth, and us, and using their technology 'upgrade' it and us--their 'slaves'.
I am not leaving out the Eastern belief systems. These are the ones many of the 1960s generations went running to after experiencing psychedelics. But ...when looked at you see they also disdain nature and the body and women, because their 'holy men' seek escape from nature and the body and return to mother's womb preferring some idealized state of static bodiless 'everlasting bliss'. Also remember it is in India where the caste system originates--where people who find themselves literally shovelling their master's shit are led to believe this is their 'karma' to do so, so they mustn't question their role.
The deeper enlightenment, its real meaning, then is to see through all of that, and feel love for our home Earth, and our bodies, and sensuality, and community, and other species. This for me is the inspiration of psychedelic fruit. In the Goddess mythos this sacred fruit is the son/lover of the Goddess (whose body is the Earth) who is also the very sacred mushroom you eat which can enthuse the imbiber with ecstatic love for nature.
Whilst composing this post here, I later just went to see if there was any response to my post at the forum in a thread titled:
9/11 as a supreme act of Talmudic Zionism and occultist magic.
Here it is. I am zwush: source
There's a guy calling himself Chriswhite ... ... ... I very much agreed with his exposure of the New Age infiltration of the truth movement, but he would argue till the cows come home that there really WAS a Jesus Christ of Nazareth who really was/is the Son of God, and who was Resurrected, and returned to his Father, etc. So what are we to make of this??
vanityfair: While reading over your remarks I immediately had to ask myself .. .. .. “Why would an outright atheist want to come here if for no other purpose than as an intruder bent on discrediting the meaning and the intent of this thread?”
I don’t know where you’re trying to take us with this, mainly because I don't have a clue as to what you're telling us, but it certainly wasn’t in the mind - nor was it the intention of the OP to have been in any religious mode whatsoever, or to have engendered an anti-religious - anti-Christ kind of a discussion; most particularly not one that denies the very existence of Christ. So with that in mind please refrain. Why you might ask? Because I am a believing Christian and I find your remarks offensive.
BTW - Just an FYI for you personally - there really is a Jesus Christ - who really is the Son of God, and who really did accomplish the wonder of the Resurrection, and who really did return to the Father, for the salvation of all mankind.
So, I don't particularly care if you choose to say such awful things against Our Lord and Savior - but please refrain from saying them here in this thread. Thank you VF
So as you can see, this person who claims to want to deeply investigate such a complex subject as 9/11 and the occult yet refuses to even hear any challenges to his/her own beliefs